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Feb. 4th, 2010 10:05 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Following today's fandom!secret on this topic, some questions about... foreskins!
Here's the secret someone posted:

Do they have a point? I was going to do a poll, but LJ is being very naughty about polls.
What are your thoughts? Should fic writers mention foreskins more often (for characters who are likely to be uncut?) Do you not need or want this detail? Do you assume they're there anyway, depending on how you imagine the characters and who they are? Is this something you've never really considered, either way?
Do you not give a hot damn?
ELVES? VAMPIRES? HOBBITS??? I don't even know.
Are you pretty sure Jack Harkness has a fiveskin? Because I am.
ETA: Thank you to my f-list (unlike the F!S thread) for not being judgey about people's parts. Every cock is pretty!
Here's the secret someone posted:

Do they have a point? I was going to do a poll, but LJ is being very naughty about polls.
What are your thoughts? Should fic writers mention foreskins more often (for characters who are likely to be uncut?) Do you not need or want this detail? Do you assume they're there anyway, depending on how you imagine the characters and who they are? Is this something you've never really considered, either way?
Do you not give a hot damn?
ELVES? VAMPIRES? HOBBITS??? I don't even know.
Are you pretty sure Jack Harkness has a fiveskin? Because I am.
ETA: Thank you to my f-list (unlike the F!S thread) for not being judgey about people's parts. Every cock is pretty!
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 08:44 am (UTC)likewise, it shouldn't be made a point that someone is cut unless... there's a point, a reason that is relevant to the story
you know what i mean?
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 09:47 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 10:23 am (UTC)Yeah I'm umm- I don't see why it should be explicitely mentioned if there is no need for it, but ... yeah I'm not quite sure how can even even around mentioning it when you describe a blowjob in detail on a guy who is uncut.
Or yknow, if the porn is hot to me, if you don't write that kind of detail, actually.
I just like details in my porn. Not grand broad descriptions of sex acts in 2 paragraphs. I mean -- I read porn for the porn and that's ... cocks and vaginas and things. I like to know.
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 10:35 am (UTC)WHY NOT?
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Date: 2010-02-05 11:16 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 11:45 am (UTC)I also agree with people saying that is not a proper secret. Someone needs to make "fandomsoapbox" and all this kind of thing can go over there.
This was pretty illuminating for me. I'm Australian, and uncirmcumcised is the norm, here, AFAIK. I didn't even realize circumcision was as widespread as it is in the USA. I thought people mostly only did it for religious reasons. It did not occur to me that people were cutting off parts of their children's bodies for nothing more than fashion. Seems so strange!
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 12:04 pm (UTC)On the other hand, while I'm one of those smut writers who's got no problem telling you who's put what bit where if the situation calls for it, I haven't yet found a real need to describe people's bits. Subject to change if I ever do find that situation, but it just doesn't add anything for me.
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 12:06 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 12:49 pm (UTC)That said however, if it's porn, I'm not necessarily reading for that type of accuracy and thus don't really care. Make me hot, make me wet, and I'm happy. Hey! If you're writing a really hot fic with the members of the Congress of 1776 getting it on, and they're all circumcised, but I dash straight off after reading it to jump my husband, then I say, "Good job!"
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 01:58 pm (UTC)Most of the time it's up to the reader's mind's eye anyhow, so... :)
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 02:00 pm (UTC)Yup, I know exactly what you mean.
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Date: 2010-02-05 02:08 pm (UTC)A second flood, a simple famine, plagues of locusts everywhere, or a cataclysmic earthquake, I'd accept with some despair. But no, You sent us Congress! Good God, Sir, was that fair?
Does 1776 - the Musical HAVE A FANDOM? :D
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 02:14 pm (UTC)I guess it's not such a minor detail to some, or it's a HOT detail.
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 02:22 pm (UTC)I've known some people who worked in health care and dealt with elderly men with dementia and hygiene issues and that can color your thinking about this. And I'm pretty sure I've seen studies about HIV rates in the developing world being lower for circumcised men, but there are certainly disputed reasons for this, like cultural teaching, marital status, whether the men visit sex workers, etc.
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 02:33 pm (UTC)I loved that secret!
At least airport/TSA staff won't think its LOLworthy if you have one of those in your handbag. :D
I am totally past the point of caring what kind of sex toys they find in my luggage, though.
Which reminds me... I have some new nightstands which match the bed in the garage, but they need glass tops. No drawers, either. Note to self: buy nesting boxes.
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 02:36 pm (UTC)Your descriptive porn-fu is TOTALLY AMAZING.
I think when it's poorly done, it can be a TMI thing.
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 03:26 pm (UTC)*bows to your genius*
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 04:20 pm (UTC)Mr. Adams! Damn you, Mr. Adams!
I have read some of that when it just seemed to break out on a friend's journal. It was pretty good stuff, actually. As always, depends on the writer.
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Date: 2010-02-05 04:24 pm (UTC)(I don't suppose it'd bother me so much if it weren't such a typical example of Americanisation.)
Are you pretty sure Jack Harkness has a fiveskin? Because I am.
WIN. :D
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 05:49 pm (UTC)Thing is, does it really matter anyway? I don't think it's essential to ensure that it is clear whether there is a foreskin present or not for something to be hot. It certainly wouldn't bounce me out of a fic. I think I'd possibly be miffed if someone clearly stated that a Brit character was cut without stating why but otherwise I really couldn't be bothered one way or the other.
I've never been up close and personal to a cut peen except in a professional capacity (I'm a nurse) and one isn't exactly approaching things with the same outlook then!
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 06:02 pm (UTC)I think I'd possibly be miffed if someone clearly stated that a Brit character was cut without stating why but otherwise I really couldn't be bothered one way or the other.
Same!
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Date: 2010-02-05 06:12 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 06:57 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 07:14 pm (UTC)*DIES LAUGHING*
(no subject)
Date: 2010-02-05 07:16 pm (UTC)I LOVE your icon!!!