Dollhouse/Whedon feminism meta
Feb. 18th, 2009 04:15 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
51stcenturyfoxThere is an interesting discussion taking place on ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
viorica8957 's journal. Non-flamey, both sides. There are spoilers for the pilot present.
"They're saying that the idea of the Dollhouse makes them uncomfortable because it represents the ideal of a woman being utterly passive and fulfilling any (presumably male) fantasy. The Stepford Wives deals with a similar concept. The reason that this is problematic is because it robs the women of all of their autonomy, and places them under the complete control of someone else- and as far as we've seen, the "someone else" has always been a man. The thing is, saying that one thing Joss has done makes them uncomfortable doesn't mean that they're dismissing all of Joss's work as misogynistic, and that's an important distinction to make."
Check outdollhouse_meta too, if you're interested.
viorica8957 's journal. Non-flamey, both sides. There are spoilers for the pilot present."They're saying that the idea of the Dollhouse makes them uncomfortable because it represents the ideal of a woman being utterly passive and fulfilling any (presumably male) fantasy. The Stepford Wives deals with a similar concept. The reason that this is problematic is because it robs the women of all of their autonomy, and places them under the complete control of someone else- and as far as we've seen, the "someone else" has always been a man. The thing is, saying that one thing Joss has done makes them uncomfortable doesn't mean that they're dismissing all of Joss's work as misogynistic, and that's an important distinction to make."
Check out
dollhouse_meta too, if you're interested.![[identity profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/openid.png){kind=small}
(no subject)
Date: 2009-02-18 05:12 pm (UTC)I really want to create fic for it, so I hope it sticks around.
(no subject)
Date: 2009-02-18 05:14 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-02-18 05:22 pm (UTC)Joss is good for that.
(no subject)
Date: 2009-02-18 05:25 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-02-18 05:28 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-02-18 05:29 pm (UTC)I still have to finish watching Buffy.
(no subject)
Date: 2009-02-18 06:23 pm (UTC)(I like spoilers, myself. I'm a weirdo.)
(no subject)
Date: 2009-02-18 09:07 pm (UTC)Besides, it's hard to avoid spoilers for a show that old.
(no subject)
Date: 2009-02-18 05:58 pm (UTC)Come to think of it, Anya, too.
(no subject)
Date: 2009-02-18 06:01 pm (UTC)That episode makes me cry. The whole thing.
(no subject)
Date: 2009-02-18 06:08 pm (UTC)Plus, "let's kill the gay characters" never wins and it's so COMMON.