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Following today's fandom!secret on this topic, some questions about... foreskins!

Here's the secret someone posted:

Do they have a point? I was going to do a poll, but LJ is being very naughty about polls.

What are your thoughts? Should fic writers mention foreskins more often (for characters who are likely to be uncut?) Do you not need or want this detail? Do you assume they're there anyway, depending on how you imagine the characters and who they are? Is this something you've never really considered, either way?

Do you not give a hot damn?

ELVES? VAMPIRES? HOBBITS??? I don't even know.

Are you pretty sure Jack Harkness has a fiveskin? Because I am.

ETA: Thank you to my f-list (unlike the F!S thread) for not being judgey about people's parts. Every cock is pretty!

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You know what happens when I'm with a dude for the first time and he's not cut? I say, "Oh. Okay," and continue with whatever we were doing.

IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL WTF.

Moreover, I don't see how or why it would be mentioned, beyond a laborious, pre-sex scene description.

Once a guy is hard, especially if you're not used to seeing foreskins or unless you're looking for it, it doesn't matter if the foreskin is there or not.

Sheesh.

I guess I just want to know what fic the OP was reading that they even get annoyed by this!

Once a guy is hard, especially if you're not used to seeing foreskins or unless you're looking for it, it doesn't matter if the foreskin is there or not.

Precisely!

I guess from some of the comments, it might come up in fan art more often than in fic.

It just sounds to me like this is a person who's read a lot of fic and has had very little sex.

Or, just has never seen an uncut penis before.

Or, has an uncut penis and has a complex about it.

[blathery]I'm 27, raised Jewish, and grew up in the North East. I was pretty well into my sexual experience before I saw an uncut penis, and guess what? It didn't shock, disgust, frighten, or bother me the first time it happened. I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS. (lol hor)

Maybe I'm a special snowflake. ::shrug::[/blathery]

HAAAHAHAH I AM 33 AND HAVE NEVER HAD SEX WITH AN UNCUT PENIS. I'LL ADMIT IT. IT JUST HAS NEVER CROSSED MY PATH. I TREAT THE AMERICAN UNCUT MALE AS A MYTH. LIKE SASQUATCH.

This is not to say that I wouldn't hit that shit like the fin of an angry cod, in fact I AM CURIOUS, YELLOW, but it's like it eludes me.

This just seemed like a good place to say that. Maybe I should have made it a F!S. :D

I <3 your comment and I want to buy it dinner.

I forget what the stats are, but there was a huge swath of time where most American boys were circumcised as a matter of course. Jewish, not Jewish, etc.

The first guy I remember for certain being uncut (again, lolhor) was born in '68, before they did it to everyone.

Yeah, they leave it up to the parents now, but even if they didn't all the guys my age that I've, uhrm, "dallied" with have been cut. That was a big debate for me and the husband, but ha ha! I had a girl! TAKE THAT, CIRCUMCISION DEBATE!

I think you've nailed it.

And no, that's not unusual. I was in my 20s before I slept with someone who was uncut, and my friend brought it up the next day, and I was like, "oh yeah, I guess..."

It was dark in the room! I didn't even get a good look! I was distracted by Massive Attack on the stereo!

I remember the episode of Sex and the City [shuddup] when Charlotte was seeing a guy who was uncut and she'd HOLY SHIT NEVER SEEN ONE BEFORE.

It confused the FUCK out of me.

I wonder if there's a level of sexual or cultural hangups a person has that makes this an issue?

And if so, how did I dodge them?!? (Specifically the cultural. Until high school, practically everyone I knew was Jewish!)

I have never dated an uncut American guy, have to say. I got my 'skin on the Continent.

We didn't have internet porns when I was growing up. I think the first cocks I saw (aside from that one unfortunate time I walked in on my dad in the bathroom) were in a Playgirl my friend dared me to buy when we were twelve. I put on her mom's coat, sunglasses and makeup.

It was probably the only time that clerk ever sold Playgirl to a female. :D

Huh.

Maybe

amand_r is right.

Maybe I did sleep with Sasquatch.

~~Can't be, he wasn't hung well enough...~~

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Yeah, in fanart it's nice to see some accuracy (for example, a guy in 19th century Paris is unlikely to be cut), but I honestly don't think I've come across it one way or the other in fanfic before. For myself, I assume whatever's the most likely, historically/IC speaking, is the way it is (for example, I read the above 19th century French character as being uncut, because he isn't Jewish so it's highly unlikely that he would be).

Haha, there's some art of the above character on DA, and some people were going, "OMG, she doesn't even know what a penis looks like!" I was kinda, "Weeell... I'm pretty sure that guy wouldn't be circumcised, soooo..." XD

LOL I can't see any point in mentioning it in a fic (unless one's describing a foreskin-specific activity like docking), but I do recall (now that I think about it) coming across a specific mention in one book. The guy was uncut, and the author took the time to mention that (and that the guy was thick, with a head "the size of a plum". XD). The weird part, though, is that none of the many other penises (penii?) in the story were described, but an exception was made for this guy, who was about to rape the heroine. LOL Hilarious, right? The author established his nasty character by describing his uncut penis, which is very much like showing how much of a bitch a woman is by describing how perky her tits are. XD Oh, man, the stuff that gets published... XD

lol I have followed you home from F!S. Can you keep me? XD

Of course! Welcome! :D

Plum peen~! Oy vey!

Mabye the other characters were uncut as well, but he was the plumcocked person in the story...

I do the same, though... if something isn't mentioned, I assume the logical choice for the character/era/country/culture anyway. :)

Once a guy is hard, especially if you're not used to seeing foreskins or unless you're looking for it, it doesn't matter if the foreskin is there or not.

This so much.

...and now I feel like the Foreskin Whisperer.

You can't let them get on the sofa! Then they think they're the boss!

You have to be the alpha!

Wait...they come in packs?

That would be an excellent criteria/name for a gang, like the Sharks or Jets from West Side Story.

Peen check before they let you join the Skins.

Their secret gang sign is: Hand covered by sleeve.

Their mascot is a Sharpei.

Their rival gang's mascot is a naked mole rat.

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Um.

'Once a guy is hard, especially if you're not used to seeing foreskins or unless you're looking for it, it doesn't matter if the foreskin is there or not.'

My last boyfriend was uncut. I tried going back to cut after we broke up. The new guy was amazing, and the sex was awful. The foreskin is a functional (and for me, necessary) part of the penis.

The ex was an ass, but he had the most gorgeous cock I've ever seen, and it was mainly because he was uncut.

His foreskin is the only part of him I miss, really.

Ah, a thing of beauty!

Rarer in some parts. I mean, geographical parts.

I KNOW! UGH, IT SUCKS BEING A NORTH AMERICAN. Ten or fifteen notches in my bedpost, and only two were unmutilated. And one of those was an Australian camsex LDR. FML. And other acronyms. :P

Speaking of things of beauty: your fucking icon. This icon I just changed mine to wishes it was THAT icon.

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Huh, I never felt an appreciable difference.

Please forgive me, I'm refraining myself from asking crazy personal questions to a stranger on the internet.

I'm sorry you're out amazing sex. :-/

I hope you've found another source!

LOL I WRITE SMUT. XD If you have crazy personal questions about cocks and vaginas, that's totally cool. I draw from personal experience in fic anyway.

But generally, I figure, we're all different-shaped like puzzle pieces; sure we have innies and outies, but not all innies fit all outies, and some innies fit best with certain kinds of outies.

I have a plastic source. However, it has no foreskin. Sad panda, is me.

LOL, fair point.

But generally, I figure, we're all different-shaped like puzzle pieces; sure we have innies and outies, but not all innies fit all outies, and some innies fit best with certain kinds of outies.

Ain't that the truth!

It's especially sad when you meet a guy with a nice cock, and it does nothing for you.

Such a waste!

I have a plastic source. However, it has no foreskin. Sad panda, is me.

D'oh! I'm surprised they don't make them!

D'oh! I'm surprised they don't make them!

Maybe overseas... I should window shop.

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