I think one of the main problems I have with so much Jack/Ianto is that, like a lot of slash pairings, many authors have decided that one of them has to be more "feminine" and one more "masculine." Usually the feminine one is Ianto, and usually that means he cries and pouts a lot. I even saw one fic where Ianto became anorexic for reasons unknown to anyone with the capability of rational thought.
You know, I am seeing these type of stories discussed a lot. Admittedly I don't read everything that is posted but I can't help but feel that it's discussed a lot more than it's actually WRITTEN.
There IS incredible J/I out there, that has none of these characterization issues, and while I very much don't consider myself a shipper of any kind, I always feel the need to jump up and say that there IS great J/I. Of course there is crap but whenever people discuss J/I fics it's about the THEY ARE DOING IT WRONG and not everyone is. Is just all I want to say. Granted, there is going to be more if it in J/I in absolute terms just because there is more J/I but I don't think that in relative ter,s J/I writers fuck up more often than others.
And I have to admit, I have yet to read a fic where Ianto is anorexic and/or cuts himself even if people talk about it all the time... (Not that I would want to read it, I'm just saying that I believe it exists in fewer numbers than it's being discussed)
Granted, there is going to be more if it in J/I in absolute terms just because there is more J/I but I don't think that in relative ter,s J/I writers fuck up more often than others.
Yup, this. There's more fail because there's more fic.
Fail, of course, being subjective (unless there is spelling fail present). Not everybody likes the same sort of stuff.
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51stcenturyfox) wrote2009-04-13 07:51 pm
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Though it must be said that people can turn canon characters into Mary Sues too. Usually if they're men, this means they weep a lot. :D
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I think one of the main problems I have with so much Jack/Ianto is that, like a lot of slash pairings, many authors have decided that one of them has to be more "feminine" and one more "masculine." Usually the feminine one is Ianto, and usually that means he cries and pouts a lot. I even saw one fic where Ianto became anorexic for reasons unknown to anyone with the capability of rational thought.
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(BTW, love your icon there.)
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But seriously. Ianto acting like severely troubled teen girl=no.
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There IS incredible J/I out there, that has none of these characterization issues, and while I very much don't consider myself a shipper of any kind, I always feel the need to jump up and say that there IS great J/I. Of course there is crap but whenever people discuss J/I fics it's about the THEY ARE DOING IT WRONG and not everyone is. Is just all I want to say. Granted, there is going to be more if it in J/I in absolute terms just because there is more J/I but I don't think that in relative ter,s J/I writers fuck up more often than others.
And I have to admit, I have yet to read a fic where Ianto is anorexic and/or cuts himself even if people talk about it all the time... (Not that I would want to read it, I'm just saying that I believe it exists in fewer numbers than it's being discussed)
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Yup, this. There's more fail because there's more fic.
Fail, of course, being subjective (unless there is spelling fail present). Not everybody likes the same sort of stuff.