Dollhouse/Whedon feminism meta

[51stcenturyfox]

There is an interesting discussion taking place on viorica8957  's journal.  Non-flamey, both sides. There are spoilers for the pilot present.

"They're saying that the idea of the Dollhouse makes them uncomfortable because it represents the ideal of a woman being utterly passive and fulfilling any (presumably male) fantasy. The Stepford Wives deals with a similar concept. The reason that this is problematic is because it robs the women of all of their autonomy, and places them under the complete control of someone else- and as far as we've seen, the "someone else" has always been a man. The thing is, saying that one thing Joss has done makes them uncomfortable doesn't mean that they're dismissing all of Joss's work as misogynistic, and that's an important distinction to make."

Check out dollhouse_meta  too, if you're interested.

Comments

[lionessvalenti.livejournal.com]

Wash. Tara. Damn you, Joss. Why do we keep watching his shows?

[eviinsanemonkey.livejournal.com]

He's so good at crafting plots and characters we like?

I still have to finish watching Buffy.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

Ooops. Sorry about the Buffy spoilers.

(I like spoilers, myself. I'm a weirdo.)

[eviinsanemonkey.livejournal.com]

Eh, I don't care so much about spoilers at this point. I just want to get a chance to watch the rest of the show, I don't care how much I know about it in advance...

Besides, it's hard to avoid spoilers for a show that old.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

I was SO angry about Tara dying.

Come to think of it, Anya, too.

[lionessvalenti.livejournal.com]

Oh, the Tara!death pissed me off, too. When it came to the finale, I knew at least someone was going to die, and I was like "Okay, I can deal with Anya dying" because she was never one of my favorites (I wasn't spoiled, that was before I read spoilers), but then when it happened? I handled it very poorly.

That episode makes me cry. The whole thing.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

Yes, I did as well.

Plus, "let's kill the gay characters" never wins and it's so COMMON.