Mondays invariably suck

[51stcenturyfox]

Overslept and am rushing to get ready for work. Argh!

But I really liked xtricks  post re: fandom's reaction to Torchwood news.  You can read it here.

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[mellacita.livejournal.com]

Seriously awesome link. Thanks. I don't keep up with TW comms anymore because I just...can't. I'll give it a go when it comes back with the expectation that I will probably move on after I find it not to my taste, but handwringing and bitching about it now seems like such a pointless exercise. It's been over a year. Even I got over it.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

It used to be easy to avoid negativity but it's become harder, especially on the main comms. So, good plan! :)

[apiphile.livejournal.com]

Thanks for that link. I like xtricks, she speaks sense a lot.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

Often!

(He's a boy. Rare, I know!) :D

(I should say man, huh?)

[apiphile.livejournal.com]

Damn my gender fail. :)

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

Hey, statistics suggest most fans are XX.

[neifile7.livejournal.com]

Great post by xt, gotta comment (maybe in the airport??). Yeah, keeping away from main comms right now; fandom may be detri-mental to your health!

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

JUST A BIT! :D

[slaymesoftly.livejournal.com]

Some excellent points made. And many that could be applied to multiple fandoms, not just TW. The basic principles are the same.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

I know, right? He's a wise fellow.

[iamashamed.livejournal.com]

that's an awesome post.<3

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

*toasts*

[rednwhiterose.livejournal.com]

Thank you for the awesome. I'm glad the only TW related stuff I follow are a select few (like yourself). While I may not agree with what you think of TW, I find it refreshing because it makes me challenge why I like or didn't like something about TW (you guys got me to completely rethink my opinion of Gwen...very hard I assure you). Not to mention, it's good to read reasonable discussion about a topic.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

Thx!

I'm normally really, really mellow, but lately, damn.

Reasonable discussion is awesome, but I've seen this sort of "I'm right and everyone else is wrong and everyone feels the way I do so arrrghratchafratcha!" and hey, not productive and not fun. This is TV. It's supposed to be fun to talk about TV! :D

[rednwhiterose.livejournal.com]

Someone once said to me (and I'm probably butchering this) "The only time I'm right is when I'm dead...and by then I won't be around to gloat".

[droolfangrrl.livejournal.com]

I thought it was rather well said. Aaaaand that maybe he needs to save himself some aggravation by not bothering to read these noodle heads.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

It's better for the blood pressure, that's for sure! :D

[stardiver.livejournal.com]

thanks for posting, it was a great read! I've almost completely removed myself from the fandom part of TW, so I had no idea what people's reactions were, but none of it really surprises me. I'm still undecided if I will watch S4, but probably will.

it's weird because the other show I started getting into, also is having it's own fandom explosion because the show is getting canceled and so many things can be true in both places.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

I'm convinced this happens over and over in so many fandoms. Ah well!

ANDY LOVE!

[madder-rose.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the link! There is just so much fail going on lately that it's like swatting mosquitoes in the Amazon. Hit one, get bitten by a thousand others...

Otoh, off the comms there is very little of this going on right now but I do wish they'd get their heads out and inhale some sorely needed oxygen.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

YW!

I see that we want the same things to happen in Torchwood, too! \O/

We will cuddle for support!

[madder-rose.livejournal.com]

We shall! I have blankets, pillows and a semi-fat dog to bundle up with. Also: chocolate as 'evening-soothers' for when the angst inevitably begins.

[alba17.livejournal.com]

Hmmm, well, I'm glad I missed all the wank. Must be because I mainly just look at individual LJs and not comms? Sounds pretty awful.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

Part of it's on Facebook (that I saw) and I'm not sure what comms he saw it on.

I did see something particularly eh on jackxianto, linked from the daily yesterday.

Eh, I think we'll all get along in our happeh places in a while.

[madder-rose.livejournal.com]

Comms - T_W for your all fail! all wank! needs. At least that's where I saw the "barrowman is a bad gay man" wank. :/ They might of course have brought it elsewhere. (FB)

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

Oh geez, really? -- I'm so glad I missed that one.

I did see the Facebook page and I posted a couple of links to interviews, but it looks like an unwinnable fight between two sides so I backed slowly away from the page.

[madder-rose.livejournal.com]

The comment was basically that JB is not doing enough for the gay community by getting Ianto back on-screen. Followed by: why is he in a show with a pedophile? So not only does he fail at being gay and fighting for GLBT rights by getting a STRAIGHT man his job back to portray a bi character, but let's bring in the Gay/Pedophile implications back in focus.

Yes. WHUT is a good comment.

I went and joined and that has been it. I stick to the old adage: "Keep silent and let people think you're a moron. Speak, and remove all doubt". So far it seems to be working. (At least off-LJ lol)

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

Ah.

Clearly he should be doing more for straight guys who play bi guys. JB, why are you slacking off on your duty? OMG WHAT IS THAT.

[alba17.livejournal.com]

These people make no sense at all! We know almost nothing about the show yet! Ianto is never coming back, people. Let's get real.

I'm not going to argue with anyone about this either - what's the point? - but this all sounds beyond ridiculous.

(oops, typing error)

[alba17.livejournal.com]

JB is a bad gay man is a particularly ridiculous argument. Makes no sense at all.